My friend has got a Creative Zen and she discourages ppl from buyin.. ^^; From what I heard she's been to the repair centre like 2 times..? 3 times? They replace it for you/repair, but I'm not sure if it's with charges. I recommend a IPod, but since you don't fancy it ^^;; (But why not? I love my IPod mini!) Or you could get a k5 samsung.. :3 It has a built in speaker!